{"id":1157,"date":"2012-10-01T10:22:52","date_gmt":"2012-10-01T10:22:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/rs\/en\/trinitarian-verses-part-1-of-4-a-child-will-be-born-to-useternal-father-prince-of-peace\/"},"modified":"2012-10-01T10:22:52","modified_gmt":"2012-10-01T10:22:52","slug":"trinitarian-verses-part-1-of-4-a-child-will-be-born-to-useternal-father-prince-of-peace","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/r-islam.com\/en\/trinitarian-verses-part-1-of-4-a-child-will-be-born-to-useternal-father-prince-of-peace\/","title":{"rendered":"Trinitarian Verses (part 1 of 4): \u201cA Child Will Be Born To Us\u2026Eternal Father, Prince of Peace\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"

There are several key verses which Christians use to prove the biblical origin of the Trinity.\u00a0 Upon analysis of these verses, one can clearly see that they do not prove the Trinity, but rather the same monotheistic message of God.\u00a0 One of the most frequently cited passages from the Bible is Isaiah 9:6-7, from which Christians conclude that the Messiah must be God incarnate.\u00a0 The passage states:<\/p>\n

\u201cor a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.\u00a0 There will be no end to the increase of His government or of peace, on the throne of David and over his kingdom, to establish it and to uphold it with justice and righteousness from then on and forevermore the zeal of the Lord of hosts will accomplish this.\u201d<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

That Isaiah 9:6 has been misinterpreted can be seen from the fact that Jesus is never called the \u201cEternal Father\u201d anywhere else in Bible.\u00a0 Since the Trinitarian doctrine teaches that Christians should \u201cneither confound the Persons nor divide the Substance\u201d (Athanasian Creed), how can the Trinitarians accept that Jesus is the \u201cEternal Father\u201d? Let us consider additional facts impartially.<\/p>\n

First, all the Hebrew verb forms in Isaiah 9:6 are in the past tense.\u00a0 For example, the word which the Christian Bibles render as \u201chis name will be called\u201d is the two words \u2018vayikra shemo,\u2019 which properly translated, should read \u201chis name was called.\u201d\u00a0 The word \u201cvayikra\u201d is the first word to appear in the book of Leviticus (1:1), and it is translated properly over there \u2013 in the past tense.\u00a0 In addition, the King James Version translates the same verbs elsewhere in the past tense in Genesis 4:26 and Isaiah 5:25.\u00a0 Only in Isaiah 9:6-7 are these verbs translated in the future tense!<\/p>\n

Notice that it says \u201ca child HAS been born to us.\u201d\u00a0 This is an event that has just occurred, not a future event.\u00a0 Isaiah is not making a prophecy, but recounting history.\u00a0 A future event would say a child will be born to us, but this is NOT what the verse says.\u00a0 The Christian translations capitalize the word \u2018son\u2019 assuming that this is a messianic prophecy and the names of a divine son.<\/p>\n

Second, the two letter word \u201cis\u201d, is usually not stated in Hebrew.\u00a0 Rather, \u201cis\u201d is understood.\u00a0 For example, the words \u201chakelev\u201d (the dog) and \u201cgadol\u201d (big), when joined into a sentence – hakelev gadol – means \u201cthe dog IS big,\u201d even though no Hebrew word in that sentence represents the word \u201cis.\u201d\u00a0 A more accurate translation of the name of that child, then, would be \u201cA wonderful counselor is the mighty God, the everlasting father …\u201d.\u00a0 This name describes God, not the person who carries the name.\u00a0 The name Isaiah itself means \u201cGod is salvation,\u201d but no one believes the prophet himself is God in a human body!<\/p>\n

Third, the phrase \u201cMighty God\u201d<\/span><\/strong> is a poor translation according to some biblical scholars.\u00a0 Although English makes a clear distinction between \u201cGod\u201d and \u201cgod,\u201d the Hebrew language, which has only capital letters, cannot.\u00a0 The Hebrew word \u201cGod\u201d had a much wider range of application than it does in English.\u00a0 Some suggest a better translation for the English reader would be \u201cmighty hero,\u201d or \u201cdivine hero.\u201d\u00a0 Both Martin Luther and James Moffatt translated the phrase as \u201cdivine hero\u201d in their Bibles.<\/p>\n

Fourth, according to the New Testament, Jesus was never called any of these names in his lifetime.<\/p>\n

Fifth, if Isaiah 9:6 is taken to refer to Jesus, then Jesus is the Father!\u00a0 And this is against the Trinitarian doctrine.<\/p>\n

Sixth, the fact that the New Testament does not quote this passage shows that even the New Testament authors didn\u2019t take this verse to be in reference to Jesus.<\/p>\n

Seventh, the passage is talking about the wonders performed by the Lord for Hezekiah, king of Judah.\u00a0 Preceding verses in Isaiah 9 talk of a great military triumph by Israel over its enemies.\u00a0 At the time Isaiah is said to have written this passage, God had just delivered King Hezekiah and Jerusalem from a siege laid by the Assyrians under General Sennacherib.\u00a0 The deliverance is said to have been accomplished in spectacular fashion: an angel went into the Assyrian camp and killed 185,000 soldiers while they slept.\u00a0 When Sennacherib awoke to find his army decimated, he and the remaining soldiers fled, where he was assassinated by his own sons (Isaiah 37:36-38).\u00a0 Chapters 36 and 37 of Isaiah recount how Hezekiah stood firm in the face of Sennacherib\u2019s vast army and his blasphemous words against the God.\u00a0 When all seemed lost, Hezekiah continued to trust in the Lord, and for this he was rewarded with a miraculous victory.\u00a0 It is interesting to note that the statement, \u201cthe zeal of the Lord of hosts will accomplish this,\u201d found at the end of Isaiah 9:7, is found in only two other places in the Bible: Isaiah 37:32 and 2 Kings 19:31.\u00a0 Both these passages discuss the miraculous deliverance of Hezekiah by God.\u00a0 Therefore, in light of the above, Isaiah is recounting God\u2019s defense of Jerusalem during the Assyrian siege.\u00a0 Furthermore, Soncino\u2019s commentary says the chapter is about the fall of Assyria and the announcement of the birth of Hezekiah, the son of Ahaz.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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