{"id":631,"date":"2012-04-12T08:09:05","date_gmt":"2012-04-12T08:09:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/rs\/en\/fighting-till-they-convert\/"},"modified":"2012-04-12T08:09:05","modified_gmt":"2012-04-12T08:09:05","slug":"fighting-till-they-convert","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/r-islam.com\/en\/fighting-till-they-convert\/","title":{"rendered":"Fighting till they Convert!?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" size-full wp-image-630\" style=\"margin: 10px auto; display: block;\" src=\"http:\/\/localhost\/rs\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2012\/04\/33.jpg\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\" width=\"400\" height=\"268\" srcset=\"https:\/\/r-islam.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2012\/04\/33.jpg 400w, https:\/\/r-islam.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2012\/04\/33-300x201.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: times new roman,times;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\">A common hadith that missionary propagandists often bring up is the following one: <br \/><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: times new roman,times;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\">Bukhari Volume 1, Book 2, Number 24:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: times new roman,times;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\">Narrated Ibn &#8216;Umar:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: times new roman,times;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\">Allah&#8217;s Apostle said: &#8220;<span style=\"color: #3366ff;\">I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah&#8217;s Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform a that, then they save their lives an property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah.<\/span>&#8220;<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: times new roman,times;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\">The missionary will quote the following hadith and will happily proclaim ha! See! The prophet Muhammad was commanded to fight people until they converted to Islam, so Muslims must fight nonebelievers until they convert!<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: times new roman,times;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\">Now indeed if the world worked like that, then that would be a very good world for missionaries, it would mean that humans cease using their minds and brains.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: times new roman,times;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\">Sadly for the missionaries (and very good for sane human beings of all creeds) the world does not work in such a fashion, rather we thinking humans who have a brain will sit back and say, hey, wait a minute, this person is quoting one Islamic text on its own, surely we must look at the context, and draw our conclusion from there!<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: times new roman,times;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\">Now <span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT<\/strong><\/span> (let us get this out of the way to just show how inconsistent these missionaries are) let us assume this is true, that Islam teaches Muslims to fight and force people to Islam, so what? It seems these missionaries forgot about their own Bible:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: times new roman,times;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\"><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman<\/span>. (2 Chronicles 15:13)<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: times new roman,times;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\">That is straight from the Bible! So one must wonder from where these Christian missionaries are coming from! It&#8217;s quite obvious what these missionaries are doing, they are following in the footsteps of their leader, Paul, who deployed deceiving as a prime tactic of preaching and trying to gain followers, for more on this specific topic visit the following article:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><span style=\"font-family: times new roman,times;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\">http:\/\/muslim-responses.com\/Paul_the_Liar\/Paul_the_Liar_<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: times new roman,times;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\">Glad to have gotten all of that out of the way! Now let us proceed to the topic at hand, and let us give the context. For starters anyone who studies about the religion of Islam will know that Islam teaches that people are not compelled or forced to join Islam, rather Islam teaches religious freedom:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: times new roman,times;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\">Let there be no compulsion in religion: <span style=\"color: #008000;\">Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things<\/span>. <strong>(2:256)<\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: times new roman,times;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\">So if they dispute with thee, say: &#8220;<span style=\"color: #008000;\">I have submitted My whole self to Allah and so have those who follow me.&#8221; And say to the People of the Book and to those who are unlearned: &#8220;Do ye (also) submit yourselves?&#8221; If they do, they are in right guidance, but if they turn back, Thy duty is to convey the Message; and in Allah&#8217;s sight are (all) His servants. <\/span><strong>(3:20)<\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: times new roman,times;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\">And an entire chapter devoted to religious freedom:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: times new roman,times;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\">Say: <span style=\"color: #008000;\">O ye that reject Faith! I worship not that which ye worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. To you be your Way, and to me mine<\/span>.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <strong>(Surah 109)<\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: times new roman,times;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\">So it is quite clear that Islam teaches religious tolerance, nobody is compelled to follow Islam, they can keep their way and religion, and the same for the Muslims. So in light of this one must therefore apply the Hadith to this context, one cannot simply ignore all these verses and then go on to conclude that Islam teaches forced conversion to Islam.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: times new roman,times;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\">Now we move to the second part, and we go back to the Quran, because the above Hadith is very familiar to a Quranic passage, and the passage reads as follows:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: times new roman,times;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\"><span style=\"color: #008000;\">And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere; but if they cease, verily Allah doth see all that they do.<\/span> (8:39)<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: times new roman,times;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\">In the above passage, Muslims are commanded to fight until there is no more oppression, till justice prevails, and when faith is in Allah. This is essentially the same message as the Hadith in slightly different wording, but the content is similar.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: times new roman,times;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\"><strong>Now of course <\/strong>if we were as narrow minded as these missionaries are, then we too would have to conclude that 8:39 commands Muslims to fight until people have faith in Allah, meaning convert to Islam and submit to Allah. In fact that Islamophobic right wing racist bigot Geert Wilders brought this verse up in his Fitna documentary!<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: times new roman,times;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\">Now if anyone studies the context of 8:39, one will know that this verse was aimed at the Pagans, not only was this verse revealed against the Pagans, but the very same Pagans the Muslims were at war with! Basically this verse was revealed during a time of war between the Muslims and the Pagans, the very same Pagans who initiated the war, as the verse itself mentions, the Muslims are to fight them until there is no more <strong>OPPRESSION<\/strong>, and these Pagans were oppressing the Muslims.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: times new roman,times;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\">So how does this all relate to the hadith in question? The reason why it relates to the hadith is because the Quranic verse is very similar to what the prophet said, and when one analyzes the Quran one will find that when it gave this specific ruling, it was revealed during a time of war, and revealed against the Pagan combatants! Hence we must apply this same standard to the Hadith in question! <br \/><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: times new roman,times;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\">And finally, Ibn Taymiyyah, a major Islamic scholar had this to say about the hadith in question:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: times new roman,times;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\">&#8220;<strong>It refers to fighting those who are waging war, whom Allah has permitted us to fight. It does not refer to those who have a covenant with us with whom Allah commands us to fulfill our covenant<\/strong>.&#8221; [Majm\u00fb` al-Fat\u00e2w\u00e2 (19\/20)]<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: times new roman,times;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\">Hence in conclusion when you put all of this together you will see that the missionary has no case (as usual), and that the hadith in no way serves their argument, and in no way contradicts the religious freedom and tolerance enjoined by Islam.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: times new roman,times;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\">Sami Zaatari <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: times new roman,times;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\">And Allah Knows Best!<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: times new roman,times;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\">www.muslim-responses.com<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; A common hadith that missionary propagandists often bring up is the following one: &nbsp; Bukhari Volume 1, Book 2, Number 24: Narrated Ibn &#8216;Umar: Allah&#8217;s Apostle&hellip; <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":15,"featured_media":630,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-631","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-misconceptions"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Fighting till they Convert!? 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