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NOT HERE <\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong> BIBLE<\/strong><br \/> <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times;\">2 Samuel 7:12-15 Nathan the prophet (son of Solomon)<br \/> \u201c<span style=\"color: #800000;\">The Lord declares to you that the Lord Himself will establish a house for you: When your days are over and you rest with your fathers, I will raise up your offspring to succeed you, who will come from your own body, and I will establish his kingdom. He is the one who will build a house for my Name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever. I will be his father and he will be my son. (New Testament book of Hebrews stops here)<\/span><br \/> Samuel continues:<br \/> \u201c<span style=\"color: #800000;\">When he does wrong, I will punish him with the rod of men, with floggings inflicted by men. But my love will never be taken away from him, as I took it away from Saul, whom I removed from before you.<\/span>\u201d <\/p>\n<p> Hebrews 1:5<br \/> \u201c<span style=\"color: #800000;\">You are my Son; today I have begotten you.<\/span>\u201d <\/p>\n<p> Does this support the case the doctrine that Jesus, peace be upon him, is the \u2018begotten Son of God?\u201d <\/p>\n<p><strong> Old Testament BIBLE<\/strong><br \/> Psalms 2:7 David is stating what God has proclaimed regarding David\u2019s relationship to God<br \/> \u201c<span style=\"color: #800000;\">I will proclaim the decree of the Lord: he said to me, \u2018you are my Son; this day have I begotten you<\/span>.\u201d <\/p>\n<p> Note: the New International Version says the verse could be translated either as \u201cbecome your Father\u201d or as \u201cbegotten you\u201d into English or Greek. <\/p>\n<p><strong> New Testament BIBLE<\/strong><br \/> Mark 1:35<br \/> \u201c<span style=\"color: #800000;\">He will be called the Son of God.<\/span>\u201d <\/p>\n<p> Note: This does not state he \u201cis\u201d the son, but rather, he will be \u201ccalled\u201d the son of God. <\/p>\n<p> Or was he the \u201cone anointed to preach Good News to the poor.\u201d prophesied by Isaiah, and the Messiah proclaimed by Gabriel, the followers of Jesus, peace be upon him, Jesus, himself and the remained of the New Testament, he evidently would not be God. <\/p>\n<p><strong> New Testament BIBLE<\/strong><br \/> John 8:58<br \/> \u201c<span style=\"color: #800000;\">I tell you the truth\u2019, Jesus answered, \u2018before Abraham was, I am!<\/span>\u2019\u201d <\/p>\n<p> \u201c<span style=\"color: #800000;\">I am\u201d is the term used to identify God to Moses, peace be upon him<\/span>.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times;\"><strong>New Testament BIBLE<\/strong><br \/> John 3:16<br \/> \u201c<span style=\"color: #800000;\">For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten son, that whoever believed in him should not perish but have everlasting life<\/span>.\u201d <\/p>\n<p> This does not actually define Jesus, peace be upon him, as God, or as the Messiah or as a Prophet. <\/p>\n<p> Note: This verse was actually modified by Jerome in the 4th century. <\/p>\n<p> ARIUS (Early history of the Church) a popular leader from Alexandria, Egypt.<br \/> He argued, Jesus, peace be upon him, was created and not \u2018begotten.\u2019<br \/> He was charged with heresy and his followers were horribly oppressed by the Church. <\/p>\n<p> After the matter was \u2018decided\u2019 and \u2018confirmed\u2019 by the Council of Nicea in 325 A.D. and in an effort to consolidate both beliefs, Jerome altered the original version of the Gospel of John 3:16 by changing the word \u2018monogenes\u2019 (unique) and substituted the word \u2018ingenious\u2019; meaning \u2018only begotten.\u2019 <\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #003366;\"> What other \u2018interpretations\u2019 did the early Church Fathers invent to satisfy their claims of the divinity of Jesus, peace be upon him? <\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p> Good question. <\/p>\n<p><strong> New Testament BIBLE<\/strong><br \/> John 10:38 \u201c<span style=\"color: #800000;\">But if I do it, even though you do not believe me, believe the miracles, that you may learn and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.<\/span>\u201d <\/p>\n<p> John 14:10 \u201c<span style=\"color: #800000;\">Don\u2019t you know that I am in the Father and that the Father is in me? The words that I say to you are not my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me who is doing this work.<\/span>\u201d <\/p>\n<p> But further reading in the very same chapter:<br \/> John 14:20 \u201c<span style=\"color: #800000;\">On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.<\/span>\u201d <\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #003366;\"> So how does he live in his disciples and how do they live in him? And if so, are they also, sons of God or Gods?<\/span><\/strong> <\/p>\n<p> Another good question. <\/p>\n<p> 1st John 2:5-6 (This is an epistle [letter] written by another \u201cJohn,\u201d not John the Gospel er nor John the Baptist)<br \/> \u201c<span style=\"color: #800000;\">But if anyone obeys his word, God\u2019s love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in Him. Whoever claims to live in Him must walk as Jesus did.<\/span>\u201d <\/p>\n<p> Note: This indicates, living \u2018in God\u2019 means, \u2018Obeying God\u2019s commandments and following the Way of Jesus, peace be upon him.\u2019 <\/p>\n<p> Twice in the New Testament, Jesus, peace be upon him, tells his followers how to pray saying, \u201cWhen you pray, say this\u2026\u201d<br \/> And the words are very clear, \u2018God\u2019s Will be done on earth as it is in Heaven.\u201d<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times;\"><strong>BIBLE<\/strong><br \/> <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times;\">John 17:22-23<br \/> \u201c<span style=\"color: #800000;\">I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one; I in them and you in me. May they be brought to complete unity to let the world know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.<\/span>\u201d <\/p>\n<p> The word used throughout chapter 10 and 17, for unity or one was the same, \u2018heis\u2019 meaning the number one. There is another word \u2018hen\u2019 which means a unity of essence. However, \u2018hen\u2019 is nowhere to be found in these chapters. <\/p>\n<p> Note: Conclusion is this is a prayer from Jesus, peace be upon him, to God that all of his followers would have the same relationship that he (Jesus) had. <\/p>\n<p> Understanding the word \u2018one\u2019 meanings understanding the way in which it is being used. 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